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Post by Hawk on Mar 6, 2016 23:54:40 GMT
Any you guys have problems connecting to the servers today?
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 7, 2016 2:04:14 GMT
I've been able to get on today
-Cole
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Post by Hawk on Mar 7, 2016 2:58:49 GMT
Maybe its me. I can login to the server, but for some reason the battle won't load.
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 7, 2016 3:27:46 GMT
That's weird. Never heard of that issue.
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Post by Hawk on Mar 8, 2016 13:41:24 GMT
Here is the issue. I have a amd quad core 2.5. About 2 days ago, WoT became unplayable. FPS ran between 4-10 and at times I wouldn't be able to connect to the battle. The system would just hang, and then I would have to reboot the computer. Figuring at first it was a driver issue I downloaded older drivers, but I found out it wasn't a driver issue because after the drivers were installed nothing changed. I thought it might be a mod conflict between the mods and the game, so I took out the mods, nothing changed. Today I read an article that talked about multi core processors and how some computers will read only one or two cores. Sure enough that was my problem. Windows 7 was reading one core instead of all four cores. I went into Msconfig/boot/advanced options and checked and unchecked number of processors then I rebooted the computer and now I am running with all four cores running and instead of getting 7 fps I am getting 45-60 fps in WoT. If any of you who have multi core processors and for some reason your games have become unplayable it might be your OS. I used CPU-Z to detect the problem as well.
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 8, 2016 21:31:58 GMT
That's weird. I've got 8 cores, but I've heard of WoT only utilizing one.'
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Post by kelkuza on Mar 9, 2016 1:57:05 GMT
Minor correction cole: Hawk's Operating System (OS) was the program running on one core. That is REALLY BAD. Think of it as a human running on half a breakfast every day with no other food. They are starving.
WOT does indeed only use one core, but WOT is a LOT smaller of a program compared to an OS, meaning it runs fine on a single core. The thing is, WOT running on only one core means the game cannot be made any faster, because faster games are largely faster because they can use more cores.
Basically, think of it like multi-tasking IRL: If you're thinking about one thing (i.e. an OS running with 4/4 cores) you can generally get it done pretty quick. When you are thinking about driving, eating, talking on the phone, and trying not to fall asleep because you're tired, at least one of those things is going to be bottom priority for you, meaning it get done really slowly and poorly (i.e. WOT on 1/4 cores).
Sorry for the tl:dr paragraph. I'm a bit of a computer guy.
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 9, 2016 2:10:02 GMT
Minor correction cole: Hawk's Operating System (OS) was the program running on one core. That is REALLY BAD. Think of it as a human running on half a breakfast every day with no other food. They are starving. WOT does indeed only use one core, but WOT is a LOT smaller of a program compared to an OS, meaning it runs fine on a single core. The thing is, WOT running on only one core means the game cannot be made any faster, because faster games are largely faster because they can use more cores. Basically, think of it like multi-tasking IRL: If you're thinking about one thing (i.e. an OS running with 4/4 cores) you can generally get it done pretty quick. When you are thinking about driving, eating, talking on the phone, and trying not to fall asleep because you're tired, at least one of those things is going to be bottom priority for you, meaning it get done really slowly and poorly (i.e. WOT on 1/4 cores). Sorry for the tl:dr paragraph. I'm a bit of a computer guy. Thanks kel, that explained it!
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Post by Hawk on Mar 9, 2016 11:32:53 GMT
Minor correction cole: Hawk's Operating System (OS) was the program running on one core. That is REALLY BAD. Think of it as a human running on half a breakfast every day with no other food. They are starving.
WOT does indeed only use one core, but WOT is a LOT smaller of a program compared to an OS, meaning it runs fine on a single core. The thing is, WOT running on only one core means the game cannot be made any faster, because faster games are largely faster because they can use more cores.
Basically, think of it like multi-tasking IRL: If you're thinking about one thing (i.e. an OS running with 4/4 cores) you can generally get it done pretty quick. When you are thinking about driving, eating, talking on the phone, and trying not to fall asleep because you're tired, at least one of those things is going to be bottom priority for you, meaning it get done really slowly and poorly (i.e. WOT on 1/4 cores).
@kel, So If I had of set the priority to high or real time, the game should have run "normally"? My other question is this, If I sent the priority to high and set the affinity to 3 cores give or take will the game give more fps or would overclocking the video card give me an increase in fps? (Just thinking)
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 9, 2016 12:34:48 GMT
I've wondered that myself.
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Post by kelkuza on Mar 10, 2016 2:41:53 GMT
The priority setting MIGHT (and that's a big might) increase fps/performance by a small amount, but WoT is hard coded to only use one core right now (although the next patch will dedicate sounds to a second). This means that setting the 'affinity' to 3 cores will probably have no effect whatsoever unfortunately. Overclocking the video card (GPU) might be slightly useful, but you probably already know this carries a danger of over-heating/destroying the video card. I can't give you a good idea on whether its worth it to overclock anything on your computer.
*Two tips on overclocking: First, don't do it on a laptop. Most laptops are designed with VERY specific heat ranges in mind, and anything over that will burn the laptop and run the battery dry really quick. Second, if you need to get the computer fixed, or serviced, or ANYTHING involving the warranty, turn the overclock back to normal speeds before you take it in, cause 99% of Warranties are voided by overclocking.
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Post by Hawk on Mar 10, 2016 3:38:48 GMT
The priority setting MIGHT (and that's a big might) increase fps/performance by a small amount, but WoT is hard coded to only use one core right now (although the next patch will dedicate sounds to a second). This means that setting the 'affinity' to 3 cores will probably have no effect whatsoever unfortunately. Overclocking the video card (GPU) might be slightly useful, but you probably already know this carries a danger of over-heating/destroying the video card. I can't give you a good idea on whether its worth it to overclock anything on your computer. *Two tips on overclocking: First, don't do it on a laptop. Most laptops are designed with VERY specific heat ranges in mind, and anything over that will burn the laptop and run the battery dry really quick. Second, if you need to get the computer fixed, or serviced, or ANYTHING involving the warranty, turn the overclock back to normal speeds before you take it in, cause 99% of Warranties are voided by overclocking. Right now with WoT I get 35-50 fps, depending on the map. The video card is Nvidea 9800 gtx+. The GPU runs at 740 with 512 mem. If I overclocked it to get perhaps and extra 5-15 fps would I overclock the clock speed or increase the Mem, or both? Would the voltage stay the same or would that also need to change? Its an old card and it still runs well. I poked around the game settings and got an extra 5-10 fps tonight. btw..are video cards backward compatible. My board is an Asus M2N sli deluxe. And the slot I have is for a PCI-E 16 video card.
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Post by kelkuza on Mar 11, 2016 2:27:05 GMT
Okay, so there's a lot of questions there. I'll answer what I can.
First: Overclocking is increasing the cycles per second, so that would be in hertz. For example my CPU is clocking a normal (for it) 2.66 GHz (gigahertz). Overclocking it would mean I am pushing it to 3 GHz or 3.5GHz (I don't know much about HOW to overclock unfortunately. I've never wanted to run the risks).
Second: Overclocking means the item being overclocked is running faster, and that will consume more voltage. Providing more voltage should prevent any bottle-necks from forming, but it's really easy to give too MUCH voltage and burn something, so be careful.
Third: I unfortunately have no clue as to video card backwards compatibility, but if I had to hazard a guess...I would guess only a little bit. Outside of a certain zone of compatibility, I doubt you'll go further.
Finally: If you don't mind me asking, what's wrong with 35 fps? I routinely play with 20-30 on the laptop and 40ish on the desktop. I find the game runs nicely enough with those fps. I'm just saying, I don't know how much higher fps you can get WoT past the 45 zone. I think (on a good day) my desktop (which is no slouch, might I point out) tops out WoT at something like 40.
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Post by coleb87 on Mar 11, 2016 2:43:07 GMT
Okay, so there's a lot of questions there. I'll answer what I can. First: Overclocking is increasing the cycles per second, so that would be in hertz. For example my CPU is clocking a normal (for it) 2.66 GHz (gigahertz). Overclocking it would mean I am pushing it to 3 GHz or 3.5GHz (I don't know much about HOW to overclock unfortunately. I've never wanted to run the risks). Second: Overclocking means the item being overclocked is running faster, and that will consume more voltage. Providing more voltage should prevent any bottle-necks from forming, but it's really easy to give too MUCH voltage and burn something, so be careful. Third: I unfortunately have no clue as to video card backwards compatibility, but if I had to hazard a guess...I would guess only a little bit. Outside of a certain zone of compatibility, I doubt you'll go further. Finally: If you don't mind me asking, what's wrong with 35 fps? I routinely play with 20-30 on the laptop and 40ish on the desktop. I find the game runs nicely enough with those fps. I'm just saying, I don't know how much higher fps you can get WoT past the 45 zone. I think (on a good day) my desktop (which is no slouch, might I point out) tops out WoT at something like 40. I stay ~60-70fps 95% of the time
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Post by kelkuza on Mar 11, 2016 3:15:53 GMT
Damn, I guess my system IS a slouch. I stand corrected.
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